diff --git a/pkgs/development/interpreters/perl/default.nix b/pkgs/development/interpreters/perl/default.nix
index e8db13a6474..3c57d8a2b69 100644
--- a/pkgs/development/interpreters/perl/default.nix
+++ b/pkgs/development/interpreters/perl/default.nix
@@ -1,264 +1,84 @@
-{ config, lib, stdenv, fetchurl, fetchFromGitHub, pkgs, buildPackages
-, callPackage
-, enableThreading ? true, coreutils, makeWrapper
-, enableCrypt ? true, libxcrypt ? null
-, zlib
-}:
-
-assert (enableCrypt -> (libxcrypt != null));
-
-# Note: this package is used for bootstrapping fetchurl, and thus
-# cannot use fetchpatch! All mutable patches (generated by GitHub or
-# cgit) that are needed here should be included directly in Nixpkgs as
-# files.
+{ callPackage }:
 
 let
+  # Common passthru for all perl interpreters.
+  # copied from lua
+  passthruFun =
+    { overrides
+    , perlOnBuildForBuild
+    , perlOnBuildForHost
+    , perlOnBuildForTarget
+    , perlOnHostForHost
+    , perlOnTargetForTarget
+    , perlAttr ? null
+    , self # is perlOnHostForTarget
+    }: let
+      perlPackages = callPackage
+        # Function that when called
+        # - imports perl-packages.nix
+        # - adds spliced package sets to the package set
+        ({ stdenv, pkgs, perl, callPackage, makeScopeWithSplicing }: let
+          perlPackagesFun = callPackage ../../../top-level/perl-packages.nix {
+            # allow 'perlPackages.override { pkgs = pkgs // { imagemagick = imagemagickBig; }; }' like in python3Packages
+            # most perl packages aren't called with callPackage so it's not possible to override their arguments individually
+            # the conditional is because the // above won't be applied to __splicedPackages and hopefully no one is doing that when cross-compiling
+            pkgs = if stdenv.buildPlatform != stdenv.hostPlatform then pkgs.__splicedPackages else pkgs;
+            inherit stdenv;
+            perl = self;
+          };
 
-  libc = if stdenv.cc.libc or null != null then stdenv.cc.libc else "/usr";
-  libcInc = lib.getDev libc;
-  libcLib = lib.getLib libc;
-  crossCompiling = stdenv.buildPlatform != stdenv.hostPlatform;
+          otherSplices = {
+            selfBuildBuild = perlOnBuildForBuild.pkgs;
+            selfBuildHost = perlOnBuildForHost.pkgs;
+            selfBuildTarget = perlOnBuildForTarget.pkgs;
+            selfHostHost = perlOnHostForHost.pkgs;
+            selfTargetTarget = perlOnTargetForTarget.pkgs or {};
+          };
+          keep = self: { };
+          extra = spliced0: {};
+        in makeScopeWithSplicing
+          otherSplices
+          keep
+          extra
+          perlPackagesFun)
+        {
+          perl = self;
+        };
+    in rec {
+        buildEnv = callPackage ./wrapper.nix {
+          perl = self;
+          inherit (pkgs) requiredPerlModules;
+        };
+        withPackages = f: buildEnv.override { extraLibs = f pkgs; };
+        pkgs = perlPackages // (overrides pkgs);
+        interpreter = "${self}/bin/perl";
+        libPrefix = "lib/perl5/site_perl";
+        perlOnBuild = perlOnBuildForHost.override { inherit overrides; self = perlOnBuild; };
+  };
 
-  common = { perl, buildPerl, version, sha256 }: stdenv.mkDerivation (rec {
-    inherit version;
-    pname = "perl";
-
-    src = fetchurl {
-      url = "mirror://cpan/src/5.0/perl-${version}.tar.gz";
-      inherit sha256;
-    };
-
-    strictDeps = true;
-    # TODO: Add a "dev" output containing the header files.
-    outputs = [ "out" "man" "devdoc" ] ++
-      lib.optional crossCompiling "mini";
-    setOutputFlags = false;
-
-    # On FreeBSD, if Perl is built with threads support, having
-    # libxcrypt available will result in a build failure, because
-    # perl.h will get conflicting definitions of struct crypt_data
-    # from libc's unistd.h and libxcrypt's crypt.h.
-    #
-    # FreeBSD Ports has the same issue building the perl port if
-    # the libxcrypt port has been installed.
-    #
-    # Without libxcrypt, Perl will still find FreeBSD's crypt functions.
-    propagatedBuildInputs = lib.optional (enableCrypt && !stdenv.isFreeBSD) libxcrypt;
-
-    disallowedReferences = [ stdenv.cc ];
-
-    patches =
-      [
-        # Do not look in /usr etc. for dependencies.
-        ./no-sys-dirs-5.31.patch
-
-        # Enable TLS/SSL verification in HTTP::Tiny by default
-        ./http-tiny-verify-ssl-by-default.patch
-      ]
-      ++ lib.optional stdenv.isSunOS ./ld-shared.patch
-      ++ lib.optionals stdenv.isDarwin [ ./cpp-precomp.patch ./sw_vers.patch ]
-      ++ lib.optional crossCompiling ./MakeMaker-cross.patch;
-
-    # This is not done for native builds because pwd may need to come from
-    # bootstrap tools when building bootstrap perl.
-    postPatch = (if crossCompiling then ''
-      substituteInPlace dist/PathTools/Cwd.pm \
-        --replace "/bin/pwd" '${coreutils}/bin/pwd'
-      substituteInPlace cnf/configure_tool.sh --replace "cc -E -P" "cc -E"
-    '' else ''
-      substituteInPlace dist/PathTools/Cwd.pm \
-        --replace "/bin/pwd" "$(type -P pwd)"
-    '') +
-    # Perl's build system uses the src variable, and its value may end up in
-    # the output in some cases (when cross-compiling)
-    ''
-      unset src
-    '';
-
-    # Build a thread-safe Perl with a dynamic libperl.so.  We need the
-    # "installstyle" option to ensure that modules are put under
-    # $out/lib/perl5 - this is the general default, but because $out
-    # contains the string "perl", Configure would select $out/lib.
-    # Miniperl needs -lm. perl needs -lrt.
-    configureFlags =
-      (if crossCompiling
-       then [ "-Dlibpth=\"\"" "-Dglibpth=\"\"" "-Ddefault_inc_excludes_dot" ]
-       else [ "-de" "-Dcc=cc" ])
-      ++ [
-        "-Uinstallusrbinperl"
-        "-Dinstallstyle=lib/perl5"
-      ] ++ lib.optional (!crossCompiling) "-Duseshrplib" ++ [
-        "-Dlocincpth=${libcInc}/include"
-        "-Dloclibpth=${libcLib}/lib"
-      ]
-      ++ lib.optionals ((builtins.match ''5\.[0-9]*[13579]\..+'' version) != null) [ "-Dusedevel" "-Uversiononly" ]
-      ++ lib.optional stdenv.isSunOS "-Dcc=gcc"
-      ++ lib.optional enableThreading "-Dusethreads"
-      ++ lib.optional (!enableCrypt) "-A clear:d_crypt_r"
-      ++ lib.optional stdenv.hostPlatform.isStatic "--all-static"
-      ++ lib.optionals (!crossCompiling) [
-        "-Dprefix=${placeholder "out"}"
-        "-Dman1dir=${placeholder "out"}/share/man/man1"
-        "-Dman3dir=${placeholder "out"}/share/man/man3"
-      ];
-
-    configureScript = lib.optionalString (!crossCompiling) "${stdenv.shell} ./Configure";
-
-    dontAddStaticConfigureFlags = true;
-
-    dontAddPrefix = !crossCompiling;
-
-    enableParallelBuilding = !crossCompiling;
-
-    # perl includes the build date, the uname of the build system and the
-    # username of the build user in some files.
-    # We override these to make it build deterministically.
-    # other distro solutions
-    # https://github.com/bmwiedemann/openSUSE/blob/master/packages/p/perl/perl-reproducible.patch
-    # https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/blob/packages/perl/trunk/config.over
-    # https://salsa.debian.org/perl-team/interpreter/perl/blob/debian-5.26/debian/config.over
-    # A ticket has been opened upstream to possibly clean some of this up: https://rt.perl.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=133452
-    preConfigure = ''
-        cat > config.over <<EOF
-        ${lib.optionalString (stdenv.hostPlatform.isLinux && stdenv.hostPlatform.isGnu) ''osvers="gnulinux"''}
-        myuname="nixpkgs"
-        myhostname="nixpkgs"
-        cf_by="nixpkgs"
-        cf_time="$(date -d "@$SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH")"
-        EOF
-
-        # Compress::Raw::Zlib should use our zlib package instead of the one
-        # included with the distribution
-        cat > ./cpan/Compress-Raw-Zlib/config.in <<EOF
-        BUILD_ZLIB   = False
-        INCLUDE      = ${zlib.dev}/include
-        LIB          = ${zlib.out}/lib
-        OLD_ZLIB     = False
-        GZIP_OS_CODE = AUTO_DETECT
-        EOF
-      '' + lib.optionalString stdenv.isDarwin ''
-        substituteInPlace hints/darwin.sh --replace "env MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3" ""
-      '' + lib.optionalString (!enableThreading) ''
-        # We need to do this because the bootstrap doesn't have a static libpthread
-        sed -i 's,\(libswanted.*\)pthread,\1,g' Configure
-      '';
-
-    # Default perl does not support --host= & co.
-    configurePlatforms = [];
-
-    setupHook = ./setup-hook.sh;
-
-    passthru = rec {
-      interpreter = "${perl}/bin/perl";
-      libPrefix = "lib/perl5/site_perl";
-      pkgs = callPackage ../../../top-level/perl-packages.nix {
-        inherit perl buildPerl;
-        overrides = config.perlPackageOverrides or (p: {}); # TODO: (self: super: {}) like in python
-      };
-      buildEnv = callPackage ./wrapper.nix {
-        inherit perl;
-        inherit (pkgs) requiredPerlModules;
-      };
-      withPackages = f: buildEnv.override { extraLibs = f pkgs; };
-    };
-
-    doCheck = false; # some tests fail, expensive
-
-    # TODO: it seems like absolute paths to some coreutils is required.
-    postInstall =
-      ''
-        # Remove dependency between "out" and "man" outputs.
-        rm "$out"/lib/perl5/*/*/.packlist
-
-        # Remove dependencies on glibc and gcc
-        sed "/ *libpth =>/c    libpth => ' '," \
-          -i "$out"/lib/perl5/*/*/Config.pm
-        # TODO: removing those paths would be cleaner than overwriting with nonsense.
-        substituteInPlace "$out"/lib/perl5/*/*/Config_heavy.pl \
-          --replace "${libcInc}" /no-such-path \
-          --replace "${
-              if stdenv.hasCC then stdenv.cc.cc else "/no-such-path"
-            }" /no-such-path \
-          --replace "${stdenv.cc}" /no-such-path \
-          --replace "$man" /no-such-path
-      '' + lib.optionalString crossCompiling
-      ''
-        mkdir -p $mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}
-        for dir in cnf/{stub,cpan}; do
-          cp -r $dir/* $mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}
-        done
-
-        mkdir -p $mini/bin
-        install -m755 miniperl $mini/bin/perl
-
-        export runtimeArch="$(ls $out/lib/perl5/site_perl/${version})"
-        # wrapProgram should use a runtime-native SHELL by default, but
-        # it actually uses a buildtime-native one. If we ever fix that,
-        # we'll need to fix this to use a buildtime-native one.
-        #
-        # Adding the arch-specific directory is morally incorrect, as
-        # miniperl can't load the native modules there. However, it can
-        # (and sometimes needs to) load and run some of the pure perl
-        # code there, so we add it anyway. When needed, stubs can be put
-        # into $mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}.
-        wrapProgram $mini/bin/perl --prefix PERL5LIB : \
-          "$mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}:$out/lib/perl5/${version}:$out/lib/perl5/${version}/$runtimeArch"
-      ''; # */
-
-    meta = with lib; {
-      homepage = "https://www.perl.org/";
-      description = "The standard implementation of the Perl 5 programmming language";
-      license = licenses.artistic1;
-      maintainers = [ maintainers.eelco ];
-      platforms = platforms.all;
-      priority = 6; # in `buildEnv' (including the one inside `perl.withPackages') the library files will have priority over files in `perl`
-    };
-  } // lib.optionalAttrs (stdenv.buildPlatform != stdenv.hostPlatform) rec {
-    crossVersion = "c876045741f5159318085d2737b0090f35a842ca"; # June 5, 2022
-
-    perl-cross-src = fetchFromGitHub {
-      name = "perl-cross-unstable-${crossVersion}";
-      owner = "arsv";
-      repo = "perl-cross";
-      rev = crossVersion;
-      sha256 = "sha256-m9UCoTQgXBxSgk9Q1Zv6wl3Qnd0aZm/jEPXkcMKti8U=";
-    };
-
-    depsBuildBuild = [ buildPackages.stdenv.cc makeWrapper ];
-
-    postUnpack = ''
-      unpackFile ${perl-cross-src}
-      chmod -R u+w ${perl-cross-src.name}
-      cp -R ${perl-cross-src.name}/* perl-${version}/
-    '';
-
-    configurePlatforms = [ "build" "host" "target" ];
-
-    # TODO merge setup hooks
-    setupHook = ./setup-hook-cross.sh;
-  });
-in {
+in rec {
   # Maint version
-  perl534 = common {
-    perl = pkgs.perl534;
-    buildPerl = buildPackages.perl534;
+  perl534 = callPackage ./intepreter.nix {
+    self = perl534;
     version = "5.34.1";
     sha256 = "sha256-NXlRpJGwuhzjYRJjki/ux4zNWB3dwkpEawM+JazyQqE=";
+    inherit passthruFun;
   };
 
   # Maint version
-  perl536 = common {
-    perl = pkgs.perl536;
-    buildPerl = buildPackages.perl536;
+  perl536 = callPackage ./intepreter.nix {
+    self = perl536;
     version = "5.36.0";
     sha256 = "sha256-4mCFr4rDlvYq3YpTPDoOqMhJfYNvBok0esWr17ek4Ao=";
+    inherit passthruFun;
   };
 
   # the latest Devel version
-  perldevel = common {
-    perl = pkgs.perldevel;
-    buildPerl = buildPackages.perldevel;
+  perldevel = callPackage ./intepreter.nix {
+    self = perldevel;
+    perlAttr = "perldevel";
     version = "5.37.0";
     sha256 = "sha256-8RQO6gtH+WmghqzRafbqAH1MhKv/vJCcvysi7/+T9XI=";
+    inherit passthruFun;
   };
 }
diff --git a/pkgs/development/interpreters/perl/intepreter.nix b/pkgs/development/interpreters/perl/intepreter.nix
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..70a0914b70a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/pkgs/development/interpreters/perl/intepreter.nix
@@ -0,0 +1,257 @@
+{ stdenv
+, fetchurl
+, fetchFromGitHub
+, buildPackages
+, lib
+, self
+, version
+, sha256
+, pkgsBuildBuild
+, pkgsBuildHost
+, pkgsBuildTarget
+, pkgsHostHost
+, pkgsTargetTarget
+, zlib
+, config
+, passthruFun
+, perlAttr ? "perl${lib.versions.major version}${lib.versions.minor version}"
+, enableThreading ? true, coreutils, makeWrapper
+, enableCrypt ? true, libxcrypt ? null
+, overrides ? config.perlPackageOverrides or (p: {}) # TODO: (self: super: {}) like in python
+} @ inputs:
+
+# Note: this package is used for bootstrapping fetchurl, and thus
+# cannot use fetchpatch! All mutable patches (generated by GitHub or
+# cgit) that are needed here should be included directly in Nixpkgs as
+# files.
+
+assert (enableCrypt -> (libxcrypt != null));
+
+let
+  crossCompiling = stdenv.buildPlatform != stdenv.hostPlatform;
+  libc = if stdenv.cc.libc or null != null then stdenv.cc.libc else "/usr";
+  libcInc = lib.getDev libc;
+  libcLib = lib.getLib libc;
+in
+
+stdenv.mkDerivation (rec {
+  inherit version;
+  pname = "perl";
+
+  src = fetchurl {
+    url = "mirror://cpan/src/5.0/perl-${version}.tar.gz";
+    inherit sha256;
+  };
+
+  strictDeps = true;
+  # TODO: Add a "dev" output containing the header files.
+  outputs = [ "out" "man" "devdoc" ] ++
+    lib.optional crossCompiling "mini";
+  setOutputFlags = false;
+
+  # On FreeBSD, if Perl is built with threads support, having
+  # libxcrypt available will result in a build failure, because
+  # perl.h will get conflicting definitions of struct crypt_data
+  # from libc's unistd.h and libxcrypt's crypt.h.
+  #
+  # FreeBSD Ports has the same issue building the perl port if
+  # the libxcrypt port has been installed.
+  #
+  # Without libxcrypt, Perl will still find FreeBSD's crypt functions.
+  propagatedBuildInputs = lib.optional (enableCrypt && !stdenv.isFreeBSD) libxcrypt;
+
+  disallowedReferences = [ stdenv.cc ];
+
+  patches =
+    [
+      # Do not look in /usr etc. for dependencies.
+      ./no-sys-dirs-5.31.patch
+
+      # Enable TLS/SSL verification in HTTP::Tiny by default
+      ./http-tiny-verify-ssl-by-default.patch
+    ]
+    ++ lib.optional stdenv.isSunOS ./ld-shared.patch
+    ++ lib.optionals stdenv.isDarwin [ ./cpp-precomp.patch ./sw_vers.patch ]
+    ++ lib.optional crossCompiling ./MakeMaker-cross.patch;
+
+  # This is not done for native builds because pwd may need to come from
+  # bootstrap tools when building bootstrap perl.
+  postPatch = (if crossCompiling then ''
+    substituteInPlace dist/PathTools/Cwd.pm \
+      --replace "/bin/pwd" '${coreutils}/bin/pwd'
+    substituteInPlace cnf/configure_tool.sh --replace "cc -E -P" "cc -E"
+  '' else ''
+    substituteInPlace dist/PathTools/Cwd.pm \
+      --replace "/bin/pwd" "$(type -P pwd)"
+  '') +
+  # Perl's build system uses the src variable, and its value may end up in
+  # the output in some cases (when cross-compiling)
+  ''
+    unset src
+  '';
+
+  # Build a thread-safe Perl with a dynamic libperl.so.  We need the
+  # "installstyle" option to ensure that modules are put under
+  # $out/lib/perl5 - this is the general default, but because $out
+  # contains the string "perl", Configure would select $out/lib.
+  # Miniperl needs -lm. perl needs -lrt.
+  configureFlags =
+    (if crossCompiling
+    then [ "-Dlibpth=\"\"" "-Dglibpth=\"\"" "-Ddefault_inc_excludes_dot" ]
+    else [ "-de" "-Dcc=cc" ])
+    ++ [
+      "-Uinstallusrbinperl"
+      "-Dinstallstyle=lib/perl5"
+    ] ++ lib.optional (!crossCompiling) "-Duseshrplib" ++ [
+      "-Dlocincpth=${libcInc}/include"
+      "-Dloclibpth=${libcLib}/lib"
+    ]
+    ++ lib.optionals ((builtins.match ''5\.[0-9]*[13579]\..+'' version) != null) [ "-Dusedevel" "-Uversiononly" ]
+    ++ lib.optional stdenv.isSunOS "-Dcc=gcc"
+    ++ lib.optional enableThreading "-Dusethreads"
+    ++ lib.optional (!enableCrypt) "-A clear:d_crypt_r"
+    ++ lib.optional stdenv.hostPlatform.isStatic "--all-static"
+    ++ lib.optionals (!crossCompiling) [
+      "-Dprefix=${placeholder "out"}"
+      "-Dman1dir=${placeholder "out"}/share/man/man1"
+      "-Dman3dir=${placeholder "out"}/share/man/man3"
+    ];
+
+  configureScript = lib.optionalString (!crossCompiling) "${stdenv.shell} ./Configure";
+
+  dontAddStaticConfigureFlags = true;
+
+  dontAddPrefix = !crossCompiling;
+
+  enableParallelBuilding = !crossCompiling;
+
+  # perl includes the build date, the uname of the build system and the
+  # username of the build user in some files.
+  # We override these to make it build deterministically.
+  # other distro solutions
+  # https://github.com/bmwiedemann/openSUSE/blob/master/packages/p/perl/perl-reproducible.patch
+  # https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/blob/packages/perl/trunk/config.over
+  # https://salsa.debian.org/perl-team/interpreter/perl/blob/debian-5.26/debian/config.over
+  # A ticket has been opened upstream to possibly clean some of this up: https://rt.perl.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=133452
+  preConfigure = ''
+    cat > config.over <<EOF
+    ${lib.optionalString (stdenv.hostPlatform.isLinux && stdenv.hostPlatform.isGnu) ''osvers="gnulinux"''}
+    myuname="nixpkgs"
+    myhostname="nixpkgs"
+    cf_by="nixpkgs"
+    cf_time="$(date -d "@$SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH")"
+    EOF
+
+    # Compress::Raw::Zlib should use our zlib package instead of the one
+    # included with the distribution
+    cat > ./cpan/Compress-Raw-Zlib/config.in <<EOF
+    BUILD_ZLIB   = False
+    INCLUDE      = ${zlib.dev}/include
+    LIB          = ${zlib.out}/lib
+    OLD_ZLIB     = False
+    GZIP_OS_CODE = AUTO_DETECT
+    EOF
+  '' + lib.optionalString stdenv.isDarwin ''
+    substituteInPlace hints/darwin.sh --replace "env MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3" ""
+  '' + lib.optionalString (!enableThreading) ''
+    # We need to do this because the bootstrap doesn't have a static libpthread
+    sed -i 's,\(libswanted.*\)pthread,\1,g' Configure
+  '';
+
+  # Default perl does not support --host= & co.
+  configurePlatforms = [ ];
+
+  setupHook = ./setup-hook.sh;
+
+  # copied from python
+  passthru =
+    let
+      # When we override the interpreter we also need to override the spliced versions of the interpreter
+      inputs' = lib.filterAttrs (n: v: ! lib.isDerivation v && n != "passthruFun") inputs;
+      override = attr: let perl = attr.override (inputs' // { self = perl; }); in perl;
+    in
+    passthruFun rec {
+      inherit self perlAttr;
+      inherit overrides;
+      perlOnBuildForBuild = override pkgsBuildBuild.${perlAttr};
+      perlOnBuildForHost = override pkgsBuildHost.${perlAttr};
+      perlOnBuildForTarget = override pkgsBuildTarget.${perlAttr};
+      perlOnHostForHost = override pkgsHostHost.${perlAttr};
+      perlOnTargetForTarget = if lib.hasAttr perlAttr pkgsTargetTarget then (override pkgsTargetTarget.${perlAttr}) else { };
+    };
+
+  doCheck = false; # some tests fail, expensive
+
+  # TODO: it seems like absolute paths to some coreutils is required.
+  postInstall =
+    ''
+      # Remove dependency between "out" and "man" outputs.
+      rm "$out"/lib/perl5/*/*/.packlist
+
+      # Remove dependencies on glibc and gcc
+      sed "/ *libpth =>/c    libpth => ' '," \
+        -i "$out"/lib/perl5/*/*/Config.pm
+      # TODO: removing those paths would be cleaner than overwriting with nonsense.
+      substituteInPlace "$out"/lib/perl5/*/*/Config_heavy.pl \
+        --replace "${libcInc}" /no-such-path \
+        --replace "${
+            if stdenv.hasCC then stdenv.cc.cc else "/no-such-path"
+          }" /no-such-path \
+        --replace "${stdenv.cc}" /no-such-path \
+        --replace "$man" /no-such-path
+    '' + lib.optionalString crossCompiling
+      ''
+        mkdir -p $mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}
+        for dir in cnf/{stub,cpan}; do
+          cp -r $dir/* $mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}
+        done
+
+        mkdir -p $mini/bin
+        install -m755 miniperl $mini/bin/perl
+
+        export runtimeArch="$(ls $out/lib/perl5/site_perl/${version})"
+        # wrapProgram should use a runtime-native SHELL by default, but
+        # it actually uses a buildtime-native one. If we ever fix that,
+        # we'll need to fix this to use a buildtime-native one.
+        #
+        # Adding the arch-specific directory is morally incorrect, as
+        # miniperl can't load the native modules there. However, it can
+        # (and sometimes needs to) load and run some of the pure perl
+        # code there, so we add it anyway. When needed, stubs can be put
+        # into $mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}.
+        wrapProgram $mini/bin/perl --prefix PERL5LIB : \
+          "$mini/lib/perl5/cross_perl/${version}:$out/lib/perl5/${version}:$out/lib/perl5/${version}/$runtimeArch"
+      ''; # */
+
+  meta = with lib; {
+    homepage = "https://www.perl.org/";
+    description = "The standard implementation of the Perl 5 programmming language";
+    license = licenses.artistic1;
+    maintainers = [ maintainers.eelco ];
+    platforms = platforms.all;
+    priority = 6; # in `buildEnv' (including the one inside `perl.withPackages') the library files will have priority over files in `perl`
+  };
+} // lib.optionalAttrs (stdenv.buildPlatform != stdenv.hostPlatform) rec {
+  crossVersion = "c876045741f5159318085d2737b0090f35a842ca"; # June 5, 2022
+
+  perl-cross-src = fetchFromGitHub {
+    name = "perl-cross-unstable-${crossVersion}";
+    owner = "arsv";
+    repo = "perl-cross";
+    rev = crossVersion;
+    sha256 = "sha256-m9UCoTQgXBxSgk9Q1Zv6wl3Qnd0aZm/jEPXkcMKti8U=";
+  };
+
+  depsBuildBuild = [ buildPackages.stdenv.cc makeWrapper ];
+
+  postUnpack = ''
+    unpackFile ${perl-cross-src}
+    chmod -R u+w ${perl-cross-src.name}
+    cp -R ${perl-cross-src.name}/* perl-${version}/
+  '';
+
+  configurePlatforms = [ "build" "host" "target" ];
+
+  # TODO merge setup hooks
+  setupHook = ./setup-hook-cross.sh;
+})
diff --git a/pkgs/development/perl-modules/generic/default.nix b/pkgs/development/perl-modules/generic/default.nix
index 3dca6550ad6..e7afedf5d63 100644
--- a/pkgs/development/perl-modules/generic/default.nix
+++ b/pkgs/development/perl-modules/generic/default.nix
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-{ lib, stdenv, perl, buildPerl, toPerlModule }:
+{ lib, stdenv, perl, toPerlModule }:
 
 { buildInputs ? []
 , nativeBuildInputs ? []
@@ -43,12 +43,12 @@ lib.throwIf (attrs ? name) "buildPerlPackage: `name` (\"${attrs.name}\") is depr
     builder = ./builder.sh;
 
     buildInputs = buildInputs ++ [ perl ];
-    nativeBuildInputs = nativeBuildInputs ++ [ (perl.mini or perl) ];
+    nativeBuildInputs = nativeBuildInputs ++ (if stdenv.buildPlatform != stdenv.hostPlatform then [ perl.mini ] else [ perl ]);
 
     inherit outputs src doCheck checkTarget enableParallelBuilding;
     env = {
       inherit PERL_AUTOINSTALL AUTOMATED_TESTING PERL_USE_UNSAFE_INC;
-      fullperl = buildPerl;
+      fullperl = perl.__spliced.buildHost or perl;
     } // env;
 
     meta = defaultMeta // (attrs.meta or { });
diff --git a/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix b/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix
index 84253221932..73594265adf 100644
--- a/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix
+++ b/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix
@@ -24660,7 +24660,7 @@ with pkgs;
 
   ### DEVELOPMENT / PERL MODULES
 
-  perlInterpreters = callPackages ../development/interpreters/perl { };
+  perlInterpreters = import ../development/interpreters/perl { inherit callPackage; };
   inherit (perlInterpreters) perl534 perl536 perldevel;
 
   perl534Packages = recurseIntoAttrs perl534.pkgs;
diff --git a/pkgs/top-level/perl-packages.nix b/pkgs/top-level/perl-packages.nix
index 492e5baf70c..29673bd90f5 100644
--- a/pkgs/top-level/perl-packages.nix
+++ b/pkgs/top-level/perl-packages.nix
@@ -8,22 +8,23 @@
 { config
 , stdenv, lib, buildPackages, pkgs, darwin
 , fetchurl, fetchpatch, fetchFromGitHub, fetchFromGitLab
-, perl, overrides, buildPerl, shortenPerlShebang
+, perl, shortenPerlShebang
 , nixosTests
 }:
 
+self:
+
 # cpan2nix assumes that perl-packages.nix will be used only with perl 5.30.3 or above
 assert lib.versionAtLeast perl.version "5.30.3";
 let
   inherit (lib) maintainers teams;
-  self = _self // (overrides pkgs);
-  _self = with self; {
+
+in
+with self; {
 
   inherit perl;
   perlPackages = self;
 
-  callPackage = pkgs.newScope self;
-
   # Check whether a derivation provides a perl module.
   hasPerlModule = drv: drv ? perlModule ;
 
@@ -41,9 +42,7 @@ let
       };
     });
 
-  buildPerlPackage = callPackage ../development/perl-modules/generic {
-    inherit buildPerl;
-  };
+  buildPerlPackage = callPackage ../development/perl-modules/generic { };
 
   # Helper functions for packages that use Module::Build to build.
   buildPerlModule = args:
@@ -23069,8 +23068,8 @@ let
 
     # use native libraries from the host when running build commands
     postConfigure = lib.optionalString cross (let
-      host_perl = buildPerl;
-      host_self = buildPerl.pkgs.TermReadKey;
+      host_perl = perl.perlOnBuild;
+      host_self = perl.perlOnBuild.pkgs.TermReadKey;
       perl_lib = "${host_perl}/lib/perl5/${host_perl.version}";
       self_lib = "${host_self}/lib/perl5/site_perl/${host_perl.version}";
     in ''
@@ -23079,7 +23078,7 @@ let
 
     # TermReadKey uses itself in the build process
     nativeBuildInputs = lib.optionals cross [
-      buildPerl.pkgs.TermReadKey
+      perl.perlOnBuild.pkgs.TermReadKey
     ];
     meta = {
       description = "A perl module for simple terminal control";
@@ -28025,4 +28024,4 @@ let
   version = self.Version;
 
   Gtk2GladeXML = throw "Gtk2GladeXML has been removed"; # 2022-01-15
-}; in self
+}